I think IA came out on top with this debate, and although scotty came off second best, respect for raising some important issues and sticking to his guns.

Hey scotty

I think you are making some rather scathing remarks at people who are trying really hard to take their design to the next level.

I have given a lot of thought to this matter and we discussed it internally amongst the springleap.com team.

They way I see it is in a case-by-case situation.

So let’s scope out what went down here :

1. IA was upfront and honest about using the vector. I looked at the vector and it is a very boring piece. Really dull colours -great line work, but pretty dull. What IA has done with it is totally take it to a new level and still be honest about it.

We try our best to constantly keep things fresh on the site and I think AI has done that here.

I am not a big fan of using other people’s work as your own, but AI has bought the license to use this piece and he has pulled a serious Andy Warhol on it.

In many ways he has done for this vector (in t-shirt terms) what Van Gogh did for sunsets and flowers – I feel it is a really awesome interpretation of the vector and done totally legally. I have seen tons of work like this before ie stock vector work, but Integral has really taken the competition out with this one – heckle! even mikdog claims he used a Mario block, and I allowed that through because I felt it was a good parody on pop culture.

I think the personal badgering is really a poor show fellas. Please refrain from making personal comments and keep your emotions and egos out of the equation.

Regarding what is real design, – I think you need to differentiate between DESIGN and ILLUSTRATION. VERY separate issues.

The thing is that design can contain elements that are derivative or found as long as the designer has the right to use those elements. Illustration is a totally different topic.

Having said this – I believe the new competition format is really going to put A LOT of pressure on the springleap designers to up their game right across the board.

Let the games begin!

Am I sensing some anger Kumquat? Where are your logical arguments? Calling me a retard or a bitch loses you some credibility there son.

Yes, I do use stock sometimes. Why would I condone the use of stocks and not use them myself? Look at my design Angelfire. I used stock tribals and manipulated a photo to create what I think is an awesome design, something that was just an image in my head before that. Then also, if you saw my designs, you should have seen Flame-Out, E.T. Washout and GAS Monkey which is purely my own work.

So go put on a clean pair of undies, and come do some lame name calling again, I’m sure everyone finds you amusing.

i finally understand why you are being a little bitch crusader about using stock vectors, you do it too! no wonder, no surprise there. with your little tribal vectors. do you want springleap to become a competition about who can colour in the lines the best? make it one big colouring in book full of Go Media vector packs. that will definitly showcase SA’s talent hey retard?

haha, nice name drops there Scotty Kumquat mah boy. Easiest way to get ahead in your argument I guess.

There are different types of designers here. Some can compose great looking tees using stock vectors, and others have the ability to create from scratch. Its not up to you to label who is a true designer and who is not. Fact remains that they all contribute to this site…you have contributed nothing but negativity so far. Submit some designs start giving constructive crit instead of bashing certain designers and sucking up to others.

here is something I wrote a while ago that shows how I feel about the stock issue.

Def gonna buy this next time there’s a special on it!!