VOTING *WHAT?*shoutOut on 1/11/09 by DustyRich in peeps |
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So football fever is done and dusted. I told lots of friends its a small field but i only see one potential trouble to the win, secretly i knew the design was better than mine in skill level and detail, it was phenominal and i seethed every time i saw it. That was Tu’s design that pin ball machine was insane a definate winner in my eyes. Then a completely substandard, no hard work piece slips in to surprise everyone, i had shown friends the compo and no one of around 50 odd people that i showed even took a second look at “colour culture”. It aint personel i just reckon the design has no place winning the compo, Im not the only one. So thats my bitch now for my sollution, Springleap needs to bring an outside design consortium to have a portion of the votes some folks with commercial, graphic, t-shirt design experiance. Im tired of loosing to designs that have more facebook friends than me. This is a small problem now but i think will escelate in the future, it will pull the quality of springleap down and ultimately loose site members. Now this is a community site and i’d like to see what other folks think, this is not the first time this has occured and its disheartening to designers who wait on bated breath for the result and be dissapointed not by a superior design but by a facebook/social network fundi. If thats what this site’s about well then so be it but I’ve seen Tu’s website and his marketing work is awesome so theirs definately a problem, not to mention “colour culture” with only 10 comments so all his wonderfull fans couldnt give a Fu*# about his design just needed it to win regardless of quality. So hey what do you think |
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I agree with Sub, I also prefer the ability to rate a shirt.
shoutBack on 10/11/09 by CHUCKY
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I prefer the rating scale. Not in the sense that I only like this 20%, but as a way to rank each design in the competition. Each voting period there needs to be a winner. Whether I am going to buy a t-shirt or not, there still needs to be a winner. So I use the voting scale as a way to rank the tees. I give the designs that I think are the strongest and got the theme down the best the highest score. Sometimes in the voting period there is a design that blows me away…yet it doesn’t fit with the theme at all. I will give it a decent score and comment that the theme isn’t there. I think with each voting period being only 10-14 days or so and having a theme applied it needs to have the scale in order to allow the “strongest” designs get printed. It allows for a hypothetical “gray” area. Where the darkest shade of gray will be the winner. It springleap was restructured more like unetee.com or DBH where the designs are up for voting for a month or longer it would make more sense to have a “buy it” or “not buy it” choice (“black” and “white”). Where then you take into consideration how many “buy it” votes it received and amount of time and where the votes were referred from, etc. If a design continuously keeps getting buy it votes at a regular rate, then you probably know that you have a solid design. Either way, I really think the owners of the website need the FINAL say. 100% of the time.
shoutBack on 9/11/09 by suburbanhijinx
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I say the voting system should change from 5 possible options to a binary YES or NO. “I’d like to buy this shirt, but I’m only paying 1/5th of the price because I only like it 20%” Ha ha.
shoutBack on 9/11/09 by mikdog
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guys and galz first of all, pardon my english is not my native language so i write it poorlly. Anyway i think that network of gosht account are an issue and to be honest i’m 1 of the most harmed, me and all desingers from foreing countrys (my friends never vote just because my friends never buy springleap t-shirts) so maybe is ok that springleap reserve the right to make the final decision.
shoutBack on 8/11/09 by Sergio37
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Personally I do like being able to rate the tees. With a 1-5 scale. To me it I only give out a 4 or 5 to a tee I absolutely LOVE! If I give a tee a 4 and I see a tee I like even better i am able to rank it higher. This might not make any sense…and I’m not a designer so what i think may not be as valid. But I think having the ability to give it a 1-5 is a good thing about the site. I dislike the sites where you say buy it or not buy it.
shoutBack on 8/11/09 by ralphysims
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Ha! I tried to stay out of this one, but I had to comment. I think the voting and selection of designs needs a whole overhaul. Two things that have always bothered me were: I also believe that Springleap should make the final say in printing, because well it’s your company, community or not, we are not there at the end of the year when your doing your books to see profit or loss so the final say should be up to you. If you could mix all the perfect parts of voting on tees it would be a little like DBH and a little like threadless. However the problems with those sites as any artist that has subbed there knows, designs can sit dormant for a long time, even with good votes and never go to print, or sit dormant forever then suddenly and magically at the perfect moment its available to print. I hate being in limbo wondering if something will print so that’s why these fast contest work great for Springleap since it has some immediate gratification. Votes, comments, buzz, marketing, tweets, facebook messages all that should be brought to the table before anything is marked winner. If I saw that someone got thousands of votes, but all referred from facebook, and another design has half the votes but from all types of places like blogs, the buzz it created should be evident, in the comments people left. Maybe take a step back and see where you want to see Springleap head in 2010. Good luck with everything and hurry up and print my Concealed Malice design so I can rock it!
shoutBack on 6/11/09 by IntegralApparel
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wow i think its awesome that a discussion like this is taking place especially at a time like this, as Chloe and Eran mentioned Springleap.com will be undergoing many and drastic changes in the near future. All the opinions and comments you guys are leaving will ultimately help create a BETTER Springleap.com, one that EVERYONE will feel more positively about. Keep it going guys!
shoutBack on 5/11/09 by amyabrahams
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Well personally I don’t think the most important aspect of this whole enterprise is to “run a competition”, but to print good designs. Systems can be exploited. Human judgement, while not infallible, can learn from its mistakes, and is much less open to exploits. So I think keeping it up to judgement is best. Doesn’t matter if it’s competition or not. The outcome is the same. But I’m going to shut up about it cos I feel like I’m playing the same tune over and over again cos I haven’t seen any change, and I’m even getting on my own nerves.
shoutBack on 5/11/09 by Tu
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threadless don’t run a competition. each tshirt is voted a certain number of times and then threadless decide whether to print or not. sometimes a low score gets printed or a high one doesn’t. we’re thinking of adding a similar type of way of voting in ADDITION to running a comp. as you guys know, we’re about to start redesigning and redeveloping springleap to make it FAR better, so the more info you discuss and give us, the better we can make it (and the closer to what you are looking for) we’ve spent HUNDREDS of hours discussing and debating how to find the winning / best designs, and the flaws with each system. i think it’s pretty complicated to get it right, BUT perhaps i’m being over-analytical
shoutBack on 5/11/09 by Eric
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well said sub. All i want is some tranparent voting stats on my design when its all over. Like how many votes did I get, how many 5’s 4’sect. that way you can see the spread.
shoutBack on 5/11/09 by kingslip
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